So, as mentioned before, I have a mental illness. I’ve been seeing a psychologist, and one of the things she said I needed to do was to get a hobby: the mixture of agoraphobia, writing and working from home had made it so I not only would never leave my house, but I would rarely leave my office.
Many years ago, I used to play wargames–not board games, but tabletop games, where you collect and paint little miniatures. I played Warhammer (both 40k and Fantasy) since I was about 15, and I’ve dabbled in a few others, most recently Warmachine.
Anyway, I put all of that stuff away when my first kid was able to crawl. Wargame figures are both fragile and and expensive (and swallowable) and having kids running around pretty much put an end to that hobby. However, when my psychologist told me to get a hobby, my wife immediately suggested that I get back into wargames. (Truth be told, I almost never really play the games. I’m mostly in it for the modeling aspect.)
So, I’ve been painting little guys. And, given my similar love of model railroads, it should come as no surprise that I’ve recently gotten enamored with making scenery. I’ve built some of the packaged scenery models (with lots of little additions and alterations of my own), but the other day I came to a realization: For the same cost as a pack of balsa wood (the modeler’s wood of choice, because it’s so easy to carve), I could buy a big 4′x8′ sheet of 2″ insulation. Back when I used to work for a theater, that was a staple of set building, because it was lightweight and easy to carve.
But what to build with it? I wanted some kind of large fort, but I’ve already built medieval castles before, and I wanted something different. I downloaded a free trial of AutoCAD–I download a free trial of AutoCAD about once a year for weird projects like this–and in an hour I’d designed an Egyptian fortress/palace thing.
And then the mental illness kicked in, and I obsessively worked on the thing like a crazy person, like Richard Dreyfuss building the Devil’s Tower in his living room.
Anyway, here it is. I apologize for my crappy photography skills.

I also particularly like the rickety walkways. (Note: they're the only things I haven't finished painting yet.)
How can I get a signed copy of Variant?
If you’d like to get a signed copy of Variant, I’ve made arrangements with a local indie bookstore, The King’s English. They will always have signed copies stocked, and they will ship them if you’re out of state. (And, if you want a copy personalized, let them know and I’ll drop by there to get it done.)
The King’s English Bookshop
1511 South 1500 East
Salt Lake City, UT 84105
801-484-9100
For special requests, ask for Rachel Heath, their Childrens Books Manager.
Do you do school/library visits?
I love doing school and library visits. If you’re a local teacher (near Salt Lake City) you can usually contact me directly. For non-local, or bigger events, please contact my publicist at HarperTeen, Arianna Heintz. You can reach her at Arianna.Heintz@harpercollins.com.
How can I contact you, and do you answer emails?
You can email me through the Contact Me link on this website. I do receive and read every email sent to me through there, and I try to respond to them all, but I’m sometimes slow. If you have a more urgent question, I’m almost always on Twitter.
Is it true that your brother is Dan Wells, author of the I AM NOT A SERIAL KILLER series?
Yes. He’s a way better writer than I am, and you should buy his books. (But I’m way more attractive, and you should buy my portrait.)
What inspired you to write Variant?
Variant was written almost on a dare. In the spring of 2009, during the height of the recession, I graduated with my MBA and I couldn’t find a job. I was living in student housing, so when I graduated they kicked me out and I ended up moving my wife and three kids back in with my parents, and then I continued to not find a job (and not be able to pay the bills). It was a very depressing time, and my brother, a full-time horror author, made me a proposal: he’d pay my way to the upcoming World Fantasy Convention and introduce me to agents and editors, if I had something ready to pitch (and that something would need to be sci-fi or fantasy).
The problem was that he made this proposal at the end of July, and the convention was in October–and I hadn’t written any sci-fi or fantasy since my first (terrible) book.
But, there was no time to lose. A couple days later I had to take my mom to a doctors appointment, and while I sat in the waiting room, I wrote a very rough outline of Variant. The only specific inspiration I can remember–because this all happened so fast–was that I wanted to write a book where there were no adults at all. So, with that premise, and 30 minutes worth of scribbled outlines, I set out to write the book.
I wrote the first draft in eleven days, and then revised like crazy until the convention, and after the convention, and after I got an agent, until it finally sold.
Why did you choose New Mexico as the setting?
Because I used to live there, and I love it. In my mind, I imagine Maxfield being set in the Zuni Mountains.
When will the sequel come out?
The sequel, titled Feedback, will be released Fall of 2012, probably in October. There will be only one sequel–it’s not a trilogy.
What’s the deal with that ending?
Trust me, I find cliffhangers as maddening as you do, though I like to think that this one is interesting enough that it benefits the book, not detracts from it.
(Behind The Scenes Trivia *no spoilers*: Originally, the book ended one chapter earlier, but many people–readers, editors, me–thought it was too ambiguous. In fact, some people actually thought there were missing pages. So, I added the cliffhanger chapter for the purpose of saying “This is the end of the book”.)
Don’t worry, though. Feedback starts immediately where Variant ends, and many of your questions will be answered in just the first few chapters (though new questions will also emerge).
How long have you been writing?
Unlike most of my author friends, I came to writing relatively late in life. I never wanted to be a writer as a kid–in fact, I hated both writing and reading in school. It wasn’t until I was in college that I fell in love with reading, and shortly after that I started to write. So, I’ve been writing for about 12 years now. I’ve written eight manuscripts, four of which have been published.
Is Variant really your debut novel?
Yes and no. I had three novels published in the local market, beginning in 2004. These books were available in some brick-and-mortar stores in the intermountain west (Utah, Idaho, Arizona, etc), and online. They are all long out of print, and the best seller of the three only ever sold a few thousand copies.
So, yes, I’ve had a lot of experience with book signings and contracts and writing workshops for many years, but Variant is my first nationally-published book.
How did things work out at the World Fantasy Convention?
Terribly. It was my first time pitching a book, and even though I knew how to give an elevator speech–in business school you take whole classes on that kind of thing–I was nervous and awkward and completely unsuccessful. Only one agent requested I send them the manuscript, and he didn’t get back to me until almost a year later, after the book had sold.
(Even so, I think conventions and conferences are invaluable, and even though this didn’t work out on the first try, I still highly recommend that aspiring authors go to them.)
How did you find your agent?
After the convention, my brother recommended me to his agent, Sara Crowe. I sent it to her, and she signed me a week later. And Sara is AWESOME, and I’m extremely lucky.
How did you sell Variant?
Variant went out on three rounds of submissions. The first time, Sara and I both knew it needed some revision, but it was early November and she wanted to get it out to editors before things slowed down for the holidays. Everyone on that first round rejected it, almost all for the same reason, and I revised to fix that problem.
On the second round, we could tell we were getting close. Editors sent back big emails talking about everything they loved, but that it just wasn’t ready yet. One of those editors was Erica Sussman at HarperTeen. She said that if I made some changes, she’d be willing to look at it again.
So, I did a major revision, re-writing the final third almost from scratch and entirely removing the second-biggest character. We sent it out on submission a third time, and got four offers within a week, and decided to go with Erica at Harper. (And Erica is AWESOME.)
What are you working on next?
I have a three book deal with Harper, so there is a third, as-yet-undetermined book waiting to be written. I have a super awesome idea, but I’m not going to tell you what it is, other than to say it will be a similar genre to Variant. (Meaning: modern-day, real-world, with a sci-fi twist.)
What advice would you give aspiring authors?
If you watch my blog, I give writing advice once in a while, so it’s worth looking at that. But here are three big things:
1. WRITE. When I first decided I wanted to write, I talked to my brother about my story idea, and he gave me the best writing advice I’ve ever received. He said “Everybody says one day they’re going to write a book. Everyone says one day they’re going to sit down and write the Great American Novel. The difference between writers and everyone else is that writers actually do it.”
I know this seems really basic, but I’ve met a TON of aspiring authors who don’t really put in the long hours, or who are afraid to start until they have a perfect outline, or who are stuck revising the same first book over and over and never move on.
So, my first advice is: write a book, and then write another one, and then write another one and keep going.
2. NETWORK. Go to conventions and conferences. Join author blogs, and comment on other authors’ blogs. Get on Twitter and interact with authors and aspiring authors. Join or organize a writing group.
I didn’t go to my first conference until my second book was published, and I think I learned more in those three days than I had in the past two years. And I wasn’t learning just from the classes, but from the conversations. Sitting down with others and talking shop is SO valuable.
If you’ve ever had to look for a job you know how beneficial it is to know someone–to have a person who knows the hiring manager recommend you. The same is true in writing. Of all my writing friends who have agents, I’d bet at least 75% of them got their agents through some kind of networking: meeting the agent at a conference, or having another author refer you to their agent.
3. REVISE. Writing is hard work, and when you type “The End” you want to be done, but that’s just where the real work starts. I have come to both love and really value revising, though it took me many years to get to that point. The three books I published in the regional press are very important to me, and I’m proud of them, but I also cringe at them. They could have been so much better if I’d quit being lazy and revised and revised and revised.
You live in Utah–are you one of those Mormon YA writers?
Yep. For those who don’t know, in the last three or four years there has been a massive surge of Utah YA authors in the national market: James Dashner was one of the first authors I ever met–he came to one of my booksignings back when both of us were completely unknown. Ally Condie is a critique partner of mine. Brodi Ashton lives two blocks away. J. Scott Savage is in my writing group. Shannon Hale went to my high school. Dan Wells is my brother (obviously). And there are loads of other locals making waves: Jessica Day George, Elana Johnson, Brandon Mull, Bree Despain, Sara Zarr and many more. (My personal opinion on why this happened all of a sudden: I think it grew slowly until we hit a critical mass where there were enough published authors that they were able to successfully help aspiring authors improve and reach the next step. The writing community here is fantastic and open and helpful, and I really think it’s this community–this network, to emphasize that again–that led to so many locals doing well.)
What are your favorite books?
They change so much that I can’t really make a long list. But, the top two are easy.
#1: Millions, by Frank Cottrell Boyce, is my all time favorite book, because it’s just so incredibly good. It’s also the book that made me want to write for kids.
#2: Huckleberry Finn, because it’s the book that really got me reading–it’s the book that showed me that, yes, maybe all those books I was supposed to read in high school (and didn’t) actually were worth something.
As for others, I read a ton of non-fiction–probably a ratio of five non-fiction for every fiction. My favorites of 2011 were Incognito: The Secret Life of the Brain and Everything is Obvious, Once You Know The Answer.
What are your favorite movies?
In no particular order:
On The Waterfront
It’s a Wonderful Life
The Bourne Trilogy
The Sting
The Manchurian Candidate
Where did you go to school? Did you get an English degree?
I did my undergrad at the University of Utah, getting a BS in political science and a minor in history. (I wanted to major in history, but it required that I take 15 hours of a language, and I didn’t want to. Poli-sci let me take most of the same classes, and not learn a language.) (To be clear: I’d love to know a foreign language. I just didn’t want to have to take those classes.)
Upon discovering that a poli-sci degree is worth pretty much nothing in the real world, I eventually went back to school, getting a fulltime MBA in marketing at Brigham Young University.
So, no English degree. I never even took a creative writing class until AFTER I’d sold my first book. It set me back in some ways–I had to learn a lot of the rules of writing the hard way–but I’m also glad to have been able to take classes in non-writing-related fields. I wrote two books based on ideas from my poli-sci classes.
I hear you’re a crazy recluse. True?
I was diagnosed in 2011 with a severe panic disorder, which quickly morphed into agoraphobia. I’m now on meds (which kinda help) and I’m in cognitive-behavioral therapy (which kinda helps). I still enjoy doing book events and meeting people, I just have to prepare myself better and plan ahead.
I am extremely fortunate to have Ally come guest blog today, but both of us having gone through blog tours and interviews where you get asked the same questions over and over again, I thought we’d change things up a bit.
Ally: The setting for CROSSED is based largely on southern Utah, where Ally was born and raised. Rob also loves southern Utah and has traveled there extensively. So we have put together a guide for you, encompassing five fun-filled days in some of the world’s most beautiful terrain (and that is not an exaggeration), where wildlife and the occasional polygamist still roam free (also not an exaggeration).
As we put together this blog, it became apparent that our priorities for travel are perfectly in sync (with the exception of an unfortunate disagreement partway through the hypothetical road trip). Our first priority is beautiful scenery that you can enjoy with your family. Our second is food. We both knew exactly where and what we thought we should eat at all times. So, without further preamble, we present:
ALLY AND ROB’S GUIDE TO A SOUTHERN UTAH ROAD TRIP
Ally: Let’s say you take this trip in early fall, so as to avoid both the summertime crowds and the worst of the heat. Let’s say you start in Vegas. Just because. If you start in Salt Lake City instead, simply reverse the order of this trip.
Drive about an hour and a half from Vegas to St. George on I-15. You will see some beautiful, desolate space and then drive up through a crazy, twisting canyon (Rob, help, what is the name of that canyon???)
Rob: It’s the Virgin River Gorge, and I recently got to drive a 30 foot U-Haul through it. It’s nerve-wracking (and spectacular).
Ally: I can’t decide if it’s more nerve-wracking coming up through it or going down into it. I think the latter. Because you know if your brakes are gone you are gone too. If I had to drive a U-Haul through that canyon I would probably cry. Then die.
And on that pleasant note… drive on. Once you reach St. George, stop. You can eat at a number of places but I quite like Larsen’s Frostop where you can get a slushy with an iceberg of ice cream immersed in it. Also fries and fry sauce. DO NOT LEAVE UTAH WITHOUT TRYING FRY SAUCE. Spend the rest of the day in Snow Canyon hiking.
Rob: Just outside of St. George is Tuacahn, which is an enormous amphitheater with the gorgeous red rocks as the backdrop to the stage. I’ve never even seen a show there—I just visited the amphitheater during the day—but it was breathtaking.
Ally: The next morning, drive to Zion National Park. It’s best to spend days and days in Zion but we’ll assume that you only have one day/night. You can do the Emerald Pools hike (one of my kids’ faves) and also no trip is complete without hiking at least to the bottom of the Narrows. This is the kind of slot canyon that Ky and Cassia escape into during CROSSED. (The full Narrows hike is, of course, the best, but you’ll have to get a permit and it will take a full day and if you aren’t an experienced hiker, etc., it might be problematic. Also, the Subway is an awesome hike but again, you will need a permit.)
I also highly recommend Angel’s Landing (no permit required, but definitely not for little kids because it’s dangerous at the end). It is very steep but you will be rewarded with ridiculously beautiful views.
Rob: Angel’s Landing is one of those must-do-before-you-die things. At some points you’re literally clinging to chains so you don’t drop a thousand feet to your death. But it’s absolutely worth it.
Ally: The chains! The chains are so scary! I always worry they’re going to pop out of the rock while I’m hanging on to them.
For dinner, I recommend that you eat at the Bit and Spur Restaurant and Saloon that night. Camp in one of the many campgrounds, or stay at the Zion Lodge.
Rob: Speaking of restaurants, before you get into Zion stop in Springdale for some Bumbleberry Pie. I don’t know what a Bumbleberry is, but it’s delicious.
A: Bumbleberry Pie! How could I forget?
The next morning, wake up and drive to Cedar City (it will take you a little over an hour). This is my hometown. This is the most beautiful place in the world. There you can hike more slot canyons at Kanarra Falls (about 5 min. outside of Cedar City), go to the world-renowned Utah Shakespeare Festival, and eat at the Pizza Factory (get the breadsticks). For a treat, go to Bulloch Drug (owned by my brother-in-law’s family!) for an ice cream soda at their old-fashioned soda fountain. Watch the sun set over the red hill.
R: Curses! Ally drove a different direction than I did (presumably due to her ridiculous Cedar City bias). Don’t go that way. Drive east through Zion (through an amazing mile-long tunnel in the cliffs) and through the less-traveled half of Zion, which is just as geologically amazing, though very different. Then stop at Mount Carmel Junction for more pie at the Thunderbird Lodge (I like pie) and head north.
Stop in Glendale and, if you can find it (you might have to ask the locals, because I don’t think it’s marked) hike up the slot canyon to Spring Hollow.
And then we meet up with Ally again, who has headed east out of Cedar City and is back on Highway 89. From there we head to Bryce Canyon. We’re only a few hours from Zion but the geology couldn’t be more different. One of the early pioneers who settled nearby famously referred to Bryce Canyon as “one hell of a place to lose a cow”. Bryce has a ton of great hikes, but you can also just hit all the canyon rim overlooks and it’s still worth it. Camp there, and be sure to wake up early to watch the sunrise over the rocks.
Then we take one of my favorite drives ever, east from Bryce and along a road that has just about everything southern Utah has to offer: bleak wasteland, amazing rocks formations, and pine-covered peaks. There’s a section of the road called the Hogback, where the road is along a ridge with thousand-foot drop offs on both sides.
A: Now Rob and I are in a fight, because he dissed Cedar City. But I’m going to eventually forgive him because, while he slighted my beloved city, he is right about two very important things 1) pie is good and we should eat lots of it and 2) the Mt. Carmel area is very gorgeous.
Drive on over to Torrey, Utah, the gateway to Capitol Reef National Park.. Go fishing at Bicknell Bottoms if you like fishing (and have a permit). Hike Grand Wash and/or Hickman Bridge (two of our favorites). Pick an apricot from the little orchards planted by the pioneers and marvel at how anyone managed to build a village in such a beautiful and difficult place. This is another spot that inspired a lot of the setting for CROSSED (think the stream, the settlement, the plain, etc., if you’ve read the book).
That evening, if you have a little extra money, eat at Café Diablo. If you don’t, try Austin’s Chuck Wagon Restaurant. (This is also a great place to stay.) Go for an evening drive to see the pronghorn. Let your kids choose a rock from one of the rock shops. When they pick a blue one that is obviously not a color found in nature, grit your teeth and bear it. They will care about authenticity later! Or maybe not at all. (This is actually about two days’ worth of things to do, so you might have to pick and choose.)
R: This proves that Ally is awesome. Torrey is one of my favorite places on earth. If you don’t want to camp, there’s a great little bed and breakfast just east of town, the SkyRidge Inn, where I ate the best breakfast I’ve ever had.
Capitol Reef is actually my favorite national park in Utah, in part because it’s the least-visited. It’s just quiet and serene and beautiful. Also, one of my great interests is the anthropology of the southwest, and Capitol Reef has some gorgeous rock art.
From there, head east again, and take a lunch stop at Goblin Valley, which by this point is God just showing off that He has a million awesome ways to make rocks. When I was a Boy Scout, Goblin Valley was the ideal place for endless hours of Capture the Flag.
TIP: If it’s winter, and you see a dirt road heading north out of Goblin Valley and you and your wife say “Hey, this looks fun”, and you’re driving a tiny little sedan, and there’s a sign that says “Don’t get out of your cars and explore because there are old mines with possibly unstable dynamite”, and there’s mud a foot deep, then you PROBABLY SHOULDN’T TAKE THAT ROAD, DUMMY. (My wife and I made it out, eventually.)
A: I now leave it up to readers to decide who is the more responsible traveler and whose path they should follow back at the point when our paths diverged back near Cedar City.
R: The right way to go is up to the interstate, and then back down to Arches and Moab. I admit that I’m not a fan of Moab (even though it’s beautiful) because it’s always really crowded.
A: My experience is the same. It’s so pretty, but part of the fun for me is NOT seeing people all the time when you’re trying to be out in the wilderness.
R: But if you’re feeling adventurous, and this stops being a roadtrip and becomes a backpacking trip, head further south, down to Blanding and Cedar Mesa. There are amazing Anasazi ruins all over that area. I recommend the Grand Gulch. It’s several days in the backcountry, but totally, totally worth it.
(And then, if you want to go just a bit further south, you hit the iconic Monument Valley, which appears in almost every Western movie ever.)
Crap! We’re nowhere near Salt Lake City now!
A: But we probably can find some really good food somewhere. I’m sure of it.
Many thanks to Ally for joining me on our imagined road trip. Hopefully you’ll keep some of these pictures in the back of your mind as you’re reading CROSSED. And by the way: CROSSED is awesome. Go and buy it.
So, bad news first. As I’ve mentioned here several times, I have a severe panic disorder. I’m being treated with both medicine and therapy, and I’m getting slowly better, but this last week it cost me my job. I have nothing bad to say about my company at all—they made every accommodation they could and were far more patient than I had any right to expect, but ultimately there was work that needed to be done and I was unable to do it. So, I’m unemployed.
But now the good news, and trust me: it’s not just good news, it’s GREAT news.
Publishers Weekly has named Variant as one of the Best Books of 2011!
I’m completely amazed and flabbergasted and honored and shocked. You can see the full list here: http://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/best-books/2011/childrens-fiction#book/book-21
Guys, this is crazy.
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